I must say that one group is really starting to improve. They are hungry to get better and are doing it. Yes, this is the best way for them all to get a start. I thought I was going to loose it the other day teaching them a new note. And it is tough manipulating certain fingers independently. But they did it. They whined and played too loud again, but they did it. The second group........no whining........no playing too loud and they even accomplished harmony. Oh man......what a moment! It was good, very good! I especailly like the looks on their faces when they finally "get" it. One of my "jock" students really didn't want to play at all. He's about the size of a Middle School line backer. He's getting it!