I guess if you have to much fat in your diet as well it triggers your body to produce to much estrogen of all things lol. They say there is no such thing as spot reduction so you must take the weight off all over. Have you been doing any dips Brassman I think that might help as well as push ups. I'm going to eliminate beer all together and probably just go to an occasional glass of wine. I don't even miss beer. I'm going to eliminate all empty calorie foods snacks and sugary sweets.